Thursday, October 17, 2013

Here's another study in human behavior.

Very interesting. I wonder why the men subsequently posed?

61 comments:

Thersites said...

Bravado, of course.

she certainly got back at them... as the subject transforms into object.

at least the police will have a list of suspects after some "stalker" assaults her. ;)

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Jen Nifer said...

Stupid is as stupid does. - Forest Gump

Jen Nifer said...

Personally, I don't find her images very interesting.

Jen Nifer said...

I can see the value of the project, but not in the images themselves.

Thersites said...

Thomas Cole, The Oxbow - On the hill in the far background, logging scars in the forest can be observed, which appear to form Hebrew letters. This was first noticed by Matthew Baigell long after the landscape was painted. If viewed upside down, as if from God's perspective, the word shaddai is formed, "The Almighty." Cole gives himself a tiny self-portrait sitting on the rocks in the foreground with his easle.

Apparently the Big Other needs someone to sign His Works, for Him.

nicrap said...

There is this article in one of today's newspapers which i wanted you both to read. First, because the subject was photography; and second, because it offers the kind of psychological "insight" that i prefer. I did not know how to share the link, so i have made a google.doc of it. Happy reading. :)

P.S. I don't know if i am infringing any copyright here.

Jen Nifer said...

I enjoyed the article. Unfortunately my brain is too tired to function at the moment. Will come back tomorrow.

nicrap said...

No prob, Jen. i am glad you read it. :)

Thersites said...

True that... how B&W alters one's perceptions of the past events they capture...mythologizing them, in a strange way.

Funny how the introduction of colour (as in the colour scenes in the wizard of Oz) made the mythical more "real" to us.

And no, 3D works best with absolute virtual fantasy (avatar), for although the physical perception is one of increased reality, the symbolic content remains the same... purely symbolic. ;)

Thersites said...

...and perhaps I should state the obvious, that the "symbolic" is the pattern of meaning already wired into our heads in the form of neuronal connections. There is no symbolic "effluence" of "truth" or "fiction" that passes from an object "into" us... no "kernel" or "essence". The "kernel/essence" already lies within.

Thersites said...

...be they "real" (dog) OR "fiction" (dragon).

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nicrap said...

Yes, I really liked the article.

I do not know about 3D as being "best with absolute virtual fantasy". My biggest beef with The Hobbit was that it was shot in 3D.

Thersites said...

Sorry (double post)... I've got to cut back on my IPad use.

And I should have prefaced the 3D comment with an "IMO". ;)

nicrap said...

:)

Thersites said...

btw -

I don't know if i am infringing any copyright here.

In America, it's considered a "fair use".

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nicrap said...

fair enough. ;)

Jen Nifer said...

I like that the author humanized the past, creating a relatedness with the dead that is sometimes missing in b/w.

Do we see the dead (in b/w) as more heroic? Passionate? Noble?

I've wondered why, now that we can shoot pictures in brilliant color, do we still choose b/w.
I've heard "it's more artistic", but why?
Maybe because we can focus more on contrast, shadows, and lines without color involved.

Maybe b/w has the effect of distancing the viewer from the subject.

Good discussion
:-)

Thersites said...

Distancing... by simplifying the symbolic. Interesting concept... perhaps in a way similar to the way the written word strips the passions from the voice of the speaker of the spoken word.... the visual observer can no longer read the passions (flush faces or expressive colors worn) of the pictured personages.

Thersites said...

Distancing to avoid a confrontation with subjectivity... to create a gap and " fantasy space" to fill in with one's own dreams and desires.

Jen Nifer said...

Yes, much like written vs voice. But...reading allows the imagination to create the "color", the flair. B/w actually enhances the emotional connection, I think.


http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+and+white+elderly+portraits&go=&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=black+and+white+elderly+portraits&sc=0-20&sp=-1&sk=

Those wouldn't be as good in color.

Thersites said...

silhouette???

Thersites said...

...and fill in whatever emotion you're dreaming of....

Jen Nifer said...

Exactly. :)

Thersites said...

no dirt. no blood. no spit. no puss.

just interesting shades and shadows. ;)

Thersites said...

...the odd purple blemish just an interesting freckle now.

Thersites said...

the sickly pall, a veil of health and vitality,

Thersites said...

...just reduce the exposure time.

Jen Nifer said...

Fj. :p

I think bw adds dimension.

Why so cynical?

Thersites said...

Not cynical...just playing with the fantasy space that "realism redaction" opens up. :P

Jen Nifer said...

Ah. I see.

You're up past nine!!!!


Thersites said...

Wife and daughter went to the theatre... and I have to make sure the kittens don't disapear before they return. :(

Thersites said...

woo- hoo, they're home! nite, :)

Jen Nifer said...

How many kittens?

Night!

nicrap said...

I hope you didn't think i was hijacking the post. I very much liked the article and thought to share. :)

Jen Nifer said...

Not at all! Great article, great conversation.

I have a few books on the psychology / philosophy of photography, but talking about it helps to grasp the concepts.

Jen Nifer said...

You might enjoy this, nicrap.


http://www.amazon.com/Downcast-Eyes-Denigration-Twentieth-Century-Thought/dp/0520088859

nicrap said...

Will look into it in a while, Jen. Thanks! :)

nicrap said...

Read a few reviews. Looks interesting. However, what with international shipping, ratther expensive. Will keep in mind as a potential buy, though. :)

Thersites said...

How many?

2 Down, 2 to go!

nicrap said...

You talking of kittens? lol!

Jen Nifer said...

Can't you just see fj herding kittens. Ha!

nicrap said...

heh. :)

Thersites said...

If it were up to me, the kittens would still be under the neighbor's shed.

Jen Nifer said...

Women are compelled to take care of helpless creatures...

Thersites said...

good thing for us men.

Jen Nifer said...

;-)

Jen Nifer said...

Nicrap, I need food suggestions. :-)

If you have a minute, take a look and give me some ideas.


http://mughlaidallas.com/

nicrap said...

You mean pick the dishes for you? I would love to. :)

nicrap said...

Veg or non-veg?

Jen Nifer said...

One of each, please.

nicrap said...

Oh god! Turning out to be more difficult than i had thought.

Try Aloo Papri chaat [veg.] for starters, very light and good; or, you might even try Vegetable Samosa, rather interesting dish though very common here; Or, if you prefer non-veg., try Murgh Malai Kawab [use lots of lemon with it];

Soup and salad i never order, so can't say;

For main course try Malai Kofta/or Kashmiri Dum Aloo [Veg.], both curry dishes; or, if you want somthing dry, try Bhindi Masala [Okra]; in Non-Veg, try Murgh Tikka Makhani [Chicken Dish]; Righan Josh [Lamb];

In rice try either Kashmiri Pulao [Veg]; or Goat Biryani;

In Breads, say give us Butter Naan [they have plain naan, ask for buttered naan]

Tandoor is various grilled meat, take your pick. Use lots of lemon with it.

For dessert, try either gulab Jamun, or Gajar ka Halwa. Have them hot. :)

Jen Nifer said...

Thank you, friend!

I will put your advice to good use!

So excited to try something new.

nicrap said...

lol. So the way to a "friend's" heart too is through her stomach. :p

Surprise them with that "Butter Naan" thing. It will be fun. :)

nicrap said...

Btw, if you prefer ice-cream for desserts, you can try Pista Kulfi. :)

Jen Nifer said...

nicrap said...
lol. So the way to a "friend's" heart too is through her stomach. :p

Surprise them with that "Butter Naan" thing. It will be fun. :)

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Yes! Good food is good for the soul.
I'll sit patiently and listen to you ramble on about anything...as long as you make me good food. :-)

Not that you ramble! Lol

Jen Nifer said...

The butter Baan sounds amazing.
Desserts? I love ice cream, but usually choose something chocolate...or pastry. If it's delicious, I am happy

nicrap said...

lol. Then i have no fear of rambling, for i am a reasonably good cook. :)

Jen Nifer said...

Excellent, excellent.

Now I am seriously hungry. :p